**Author:** Hubbard, L. R.

**Document date:** 1952, 2 December

**Document title:** The "Q": Highest Level of Knowledge

**Document type:** lecture transcript

**Event:** Philadelphia Doctorate Course

**Location: **Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

**Document ID:** PDC-06

**Description:** Hubbard talks about the mysterious Qs. Discusses his knowledge of the universes outside the MEST universe. Discusses how to create a universe by changing space coordinates.

This is December 2nd, first hour night class and we have tonight this first lecture on the axioms.

We have the axioms more or less accumulated in ADVANCED PROCEDURE AND AXIOMS, and in the HANDBOOK FOR PRECLEARS. ADVANCE PROCEDURES AND AXIOMS is the later issue. There’s a whole rundown of axioms. There’s about two hundred and ten axioms.

These axioms are divided into the Logics and in axioms, now Logics and axioms. All right, why do we have this division? It’s because the Logics apply and seem to apply at the time to a behavior level of thought which was persistent and consistent and didn’t necessarily apply to Homo sap… sapie… sapiens. Excuse me, Homo sap uh… it didn’t necessarily apply to him. But the axioms themselves as listed in ADVANCE PROCEDURES AND AXIOMS and HANDBOOK FOR PRECLEARS apply to Homo sapiens. That’s why they’re in that group. For Homo sapiens every thought is preceded by a counter-effort. Now that’s one level of thinking. That’s to some degree stimulus response thinking.

That’s not true of a thetan. And so the Logics as listed in ADVANCE PROCEDURE AND AXIOMS apply generally to thought, thought and its behavior in any activity. And the axioms, I say, apply peculiarly to Homo sapiens. So let’s pay then attention on these Logics and axioms, particularly to the Logics and then let me tell you that there is a thing above the Logics. And that’s what I’m going to talk to you first about.

There is a series, a whole series, numbering about five, something like that, above the level of logic and above the level of axiom. Now just for pure cussedness, I’ve been calling these things the Qs. Just… just for orneriness… uh… just the letter Q, a mathematical symbol which maybe stands for quotient and maybe it stands for quatrain and maybe it stands for quarantine.

We’re not interested in that. We’ll just call them the Qs, just a mathematical designation to differentiate them from other things.

Actually, Q can be defined this way: it is the level from which we are now viewing, which is a common denominator to all experience which we can now view. This is the level from which we’re viewing all experience, and which does, by the way, act as a common denominator to all this experience, and the Q is the highest level from which we’re operating.

This data then, these Qs, would stand behind everything else that we do.

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I know of three frames positively outside this universe. There’s a universe outside this universe and there’s a universe outside that and its set of universes, and there’s a universe outside that universe. And I know the one beyond that. And it’s not necess… they’re not necessarily getting thinner or more unsubstantial but they don’t run according to the same laws. E equals MC squared won’t work in ‘em. That is not a native characteristic of energy. It just happens to be.

Now this universe might be called… it could be that this MEST universe is the inevitable average of agreement, the inevitable average of illusion. If you… if you had a bunch of people and… and they kept mocking up illusions and mocking up illusions, and agreeing and agreeing, you might say that it would become the inevitable average of this agreement amongst illusions. Now I wouldn’t know that that holds good but it happens that it might happen over such a long… long phase of time. That’s horrible. Ah… it might happen over such a large mass as the MEST universe. The MEST universe is a large mass, not a long time.

Now there being a large mass this might have come into being because of that. I don’t know that. But I do know… I do know that I have already seen enough of universes to know that they don’t run on the same laws. That’s very very astonishing. And I do know that every individual is perfectly capable of making one. Well, don’t say that it has to be just a little tiny one that you’d keep in a jewel box or anything of the sort. It could be probably pretty big.

How many universes could you have in the available… universes? Of course the number is infinity. This MEST universe, being a postulated dimension which you agree upon, could very easily… if we’re speaking of dimension, you have a postulated dimension, all you’ve got to do is… is change its space coordinates just a little bit and it can sit right there.

Hubbard, L. R. (1952, 2 December). The “Q”: Highest Level of Knowledge. *Philadelphia Doctorate Course*, (PDC-06). Lecture conducted from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.